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How to buy a bike!

#1 Postby ducatihottie » Mon Jul 14, 2003 3:49 pm

How to buy a bike!
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#2 Postby Fresh » Thu Oct 23, 2003 11:23 am

First of all figure out what you want.

This sounds stupid, but I have heard of people walking into a dealer wanting one bike, and riding out on a totally different one, and wondering what the hell happened in between.

So, decide what you want, and then figure out how much you are going to have to spend.

Lets talk about finance

Cash is the king, and lets face it, most any bike can be bought for under ten grand, so financing is not really essential. Its also a lot harder to finance a bike than a car, because they are harder to repo, and also much more likely to be wrecked.

Finance also forces you to have full insurance, something that many newer riders cannot afford.

So, you have your budget.

If you are buying used (and I for one cannot stand the "hit" that I take as I leave the dealers, its a bit more complex than new.

First of all look at the price that is being asked, and take 10% off it.

Then make a physical list of eveything that you can see that is up with the bike. Take it for a test ride. Do not rag on it - remember its not warm, but ride it far enough to get a feel for it. Check that it tracks straight, and that the brakes do not shudder.

Check the gearbox for action, and try pulling hard in the lower ones, then back off, and whack the throttle open - if it jumps out of gear - and some do, walk away.

Once you get back to the dealer, update your list.

Add up the costs of each and every minor issue, and take that off the price - along with the 10%. This is your base price - you want everything fixed, and you want to be as close as possible to that number too.

Walking away works. If you have the cash, put it on the table

If you are buying private, a similar rule applies, but dealing one-to-one is often easier.

Here is MY check list.

1) Overall condition - it should be clean, clean, clean. mis-matched fairing, different color matches etc point to a crash

2) Check the stator cover - is it "rough"? if so, it's touched the ground.

3) Look at the brake rotors - are they scored ? Did you feel any pulsing ? Thats $500 off please

4) Look at the frame, if its polished, there is a posibility that its been dented, welding a frame this way is the only way to disguise a dent. I personally would never buy a bike with a polished frame.

5) Look at the tires. Are they melted off the rims ? If so they may be race take offs - this is bad. Or the bike has seen some track action - this is not a really bad thing, but you might want to check to see if its seen any kitty litter action. There is a real easy way to do this - check the wiring loom - see if the conectors have sand in them. If the tires have flat spots, or are bald in the center but new looking around the edges, the owner did wheelies, or burnouts or both. Unless you want an abused bike, walk away.

6) Take a look at the VIN number and the engine number - check that this matches the paperwork. No paperwork? No numbers? Walk away (for good).

7) Listen to the seller, if he brags of 100mph wheelies, walk away. It's been thrashed.

8) Carefully rock the bike back and forth, with the front brake on - any clicking will point to a maladjusted, or worse damaged, head race - this is another bargaining point.

9) Has it got all the accessories ?
Seat hump and passenger seat ? Each one is $60
Manual - $25
Toolkit - $30
Tank prop - $15

10) do you LIKE the mods ?
not everyone likes all the mods that bikes have, do you want to put it back to stock ?

For the haggling, here are a few base prices...

Brake Rotors - $500
Brake pads - $80
Tires - $300
Chain and Sprocket set $300

Its best to take a biker buddy with you, as the voice of reason as much as anything.

Do not be afraid of losing the perfect bike by walking away, you can always send a buddy to see it and further low-ball the dealer, before you go back and take a second look....
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#3 Postby MistrissKittie » Thu Oct 23, 2003 11:39 am

That was ALOT of usefull information THANK YOU for posting.
Dont buy the first thing you see.. 8)
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#4 Postby MadWilli » Thu Oct 23, 2003 1:57 pm

Wow! Right on Fresh!
I'm marking down a few of those tips.
Thanks!

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#5 Postby cookie » Thu Oct 23, 2003 11:01 pm

Thanks for the info Fresh... i'm currently in the market for a new bike by the begining of next year. I looked at a few dealership, but they pressured me to something "they" want to sell....I got too fustrated and left. Plus I was running out of time, had to run to a wedding. The good thing is that I got to sit on a few that was availible and see how cumphy was the position and how slightly tip-toe I was on a few. But still looking :shock:

When I bought my 250 ninja this year, I had 4 of my guy friends test it out and ride it around because I had no clue how a used bike should feel, or if there is any malfunctions. In the end, they helped out a great deal and rode it home for me :wink: The bike is absolutly great now.. after a few switcher-roos. :)

Thanks GUYS!

Some people's pointer: Never let a dealer push you into something that you don't want(sometimes the rush of a new bike can get very intimidating and blind you for a second), bring one but better a few people who has the knowledge of a bike, and someone who can talk a deal.

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#6 Postby chicklets » Wed Apr 07, 2004 1:14 am

damn Fresh. You should come with me when I look for a bike of my own.

chicklets

#7 Postby chicklets » Wed Apr 07, 2004 1:14 am

damn Fresh. You should come with me when I look for a bike of my own.

chicklets

#8 Postby chicklets » Wed Apr 07, 2004 2:06 am

I know this is totally off topic but. I was searching the net and I came across these sites.

http://dmoz.org/Recreation/Motorcycles/ ... ubs/Women/

I think it's great that there are a lot of women riders all across the U.S. I didn't think there were so many but I definitely believe THIS site is the most elaborate one of all of them. GOOD JOB CURVEUNIT! YEY!!! I know this organization is going to be BIG. I can't wait to get my bike and be apart of the fun rides and the unit.

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#9 Postby Fresh » Wed Apr 07, 2004 5:54 pm

chicklets wrote:damn Fresh. You should come with me when I look for a bike of my own.


Hit me up then. We're both in El Sobrante, I'll help you out when you're ready.
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#10 Postby chicklets » Wed Apr 07, 2004 6:15 pm

cool. thanks.

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#11 Postby Fresh » Wed Apr 07, 2004 11:34 pm

Sticky please. :D
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#12 Postby MistrissKittie » Thu Apr 08, 2004 7:08 am

Fresh wrote:Sticky please. :D


You've been sticky'd!!

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